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Facespan
Posted: Wed May 03, 2023 4:04 pm
by tperry2x
Not Facepalm (as I keep reading it), but Facespan.
Very similar in design to Runtime Revolution / Livecode... strikingly so.
http://macintoshgarden.org/apps/facespan-3
Instead of the main IDE being focused on OpenXTalk, it's purely implemented in Applescript.
Re: Facespan
Posted: Wed May 03, 2023 4:19 pm
by richmond62
Cripes . . .
Was that for MacOS 7,8 & 9?
Time to fire up my PPC Mac Mini running Siberian Tiger
[tarted up 10.4] and 9.2 again and give that a go.
Mind you, a bit like Hippotheriums: not much cop nowadays beyond a big think about what survives and what dies out.
Re: Facespan
Posted: Wed May 03, 2023 6:38 pm
by richmond62
There is a PPC Mac OS X version available as well:
http://macintoshgarden.org/apps/facespan-43
Re: Facespan
Posted: Wed May 03, 2023 6:57 pm
by richmond62
Re: Facespan
Posted: Wed May 03, 2023 7:31 pm
by richmond62
But, in Facespan 4.3 its interface was deviating from the RunRev one [as if it ever was lined up with it]:
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Re: Facespan
Posted: Sun May 07, 2023 7:37 am
by tperry2x
Journeying back into 'Classic' Mac OS for a minute, I noticed that in LiveCode 1.1, they tried the 'unified' inspector palette thing. The problem with this of course was that the palette took up 2/3rds of the screen when writing any code, and when inspecting a button, it normally continued to take up 2/3rds of the screen - when it didn't lose focus or crash that is.
The standalones generated were around 2MB in size, for what essentially can be a window with interface elements. The same stack generated on Mac OS 10.9 and above takes 19+MB. So I wondered why the bloat? Can this fat be trimmed?
Re: Facespan
Posted: Sun May 07, 2023 8:04 am
by richmond62
I noticed that in LiveCode 1.1, they tried the 'unified' inspector palette thing.
That's odd, I missed that one: and it is even odder when I consider that I started with RunRev 1.0.
Could you "be a darling" and post some screenshots of this?
Re: Facespan
Posted: Sun May 07, 2023 6:59 pm
by tperry2x
richmond62 wrote: ↑Sun May 07, 2023 8:04 am
Could you "be a darling" and post some screenshots of this?
Thinking about that, the odd graphical glitch could be because I'm running Mac OS 9 through sheepshaver.
But here's what I meant about the universal palette not changing size.
https://www.tsites.co.uk/otherstuff/ran ... code_1.mp4
It could just be a quirk of sheepshaver.
Re: Facespan
Posted: Mon May 08, 2023 10:53 am
by richmond62
What you call a 'unified' inspector is ONLY the properties palette.
What is a bit more instructive is how KM and his sister (Yes) have managed to edge out all the other people
in that about thing.
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