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OK, so background. I'm running Linux Mint 20.3 Una (base: Ubuntu 20.04 focal, 64-bit, of course.) Is there someone that could compile and provide a .deb for me of qemu "Screamer"

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https://github.com/mcayland/qemu/tree/screamer
so that I can finally get an OS 9 Mac to kick around without having to break out my Power Mac 8600200? (I'd like it, but my wife wouldn't, to say the least. That, and I'd like to introduce OS 9 to 12 cores running at 4GHz in turbo mode.)

My compilation skills end at ./configure, make, make install. There are loads of instruction sites for every other OS; and using them, I've gotten almost there for about ten hours now, a few hours each evening, and I know when to fold. If there's anything else I need to do, like remove the installed qemu or some such thing, let me know. Every time I've given up, I see red and can't remember my own name.

I'd give a thousand thanks (and will host it somewhere) to try and return the favor.

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I run Mac OS 9 under 'classic' on a PPC Mac MinI
running Mac OS 10.4, it is about as unobtrusive as possible next to my other 6 machines at home.
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richmond62 wrote: Fri Jun 24, 2022 3:06 pm I run Mac OS 9 under 'classic' on a PPC Mac MinI
running Mac OS 10.4, it is about as unobtrusive as possible next to my other 6 machines at home.
I'd be up for that, along with a PowerMac 2,1 ... if I could find both for their actual value, not the 4x premium this stuff has started commanding.

I'll have my own office, when we build our new house. Then it will be WAY less of an issue.
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Which country do you stay in?

In Europe I have seen PPC Mac Minis going for 50 Euros.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/275210385748?h ... SwuPtiLktt

https://www.ebay.com/itm/374067384720?_ ... d=78160757
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overclockedmind wrote: Fri Jun 24, 2022 1:50 pm so that I can finally get an OS 9 Mac to kick around without having to break out my Power Mac 8600200?
Well it's not Qemu level PPC (BTW, the "Screamer" builds sound output didn't work all that well on last time I tried it, on macOS) but Basillisk II running macOS 8 should run many of the same apps, specially if you mix-n-match extensions and make sure you have certain extensions are installed (like for the later SharedCode Manager or Carbon) installed.

Here's a WebAssembly build of Basilisk II running macOS 8, placed onto a website: https://macos8.app

I believe there are SheepShaver builds for Linux? That should run up to macOS 9.1 just fine, you may need to have 4MB "newworld.rom" file (as found in PCI PowerPC mac such as the 8600).

I'd like to introduce OS 9 to 12 cores running at 4GHz in turbo mode.)
I think emulation of video or sound can benefit from running in their own threads, but not sure anymore than 3-cores would help. There was never great multi-processor support within the classic macOS, not a lot of software took advantage of it IIRC.
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I hear that! I'm the type of guy that irritates my spouse by bringing home an 8ft tall 1980s Arcade cabinet that someone put out to trash, lol!
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wife
I hear that! I'm the type of guy that irritates my spouse by bringing home an 8ft tall 1980s Arcade cabinet that someone put out to trash, lol!
What'd really have her going is that I'd have to use her car to do it... and I would. When our house is built, my self-restrictions *really* fall off. I'll have my own, dedicated space, and garage space on top of that.

The biggest seller for me with screamer is the audio; and if it's not any good, then I have no interest in it.
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richmond62 wrote: Fri Jun 24, 2022 4:22 pm Which country do you stay in?

In Europe I have seen PPC Mac Minis going for 50 Euros.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/275210385748?h ... SwuPtiLktt

https://www.ebay.com/itm/374067384720?_ ... d=78160757
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Quite a few PPC Mac Minis on US eBay.
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richmond62 wrote: Sun Jun 26, 2022 6:21 am Quite a few PPC Mac Minis on US eBay.
Sweet, I'll start tracking them. Been reading too many "collector/vintage" blah etc groups on Facebook, I guess. Like people selling 486-class machines for over $100. The first thing I'd ask a person who bought a 486 off me is, "you DO realize what you're getting, right? And you've seen the date on the case?"
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Start with those 2 URLs I posted earlier.
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All the monitors I have in my school were given to me by my bank: better to keep using them than either put in a hole in the ground or pay a recycling fee.
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overclockedmind wrote: Sun Jun 26, 2022 4:49 am The biggest seller for me with screamer is the audio; and if it's not any good, then I have no interest in it.
To be fair, I haven't tried Q-emu PPC w/Screamer builds in maybe 2 years and there was some fairly active development going on that, and also it was the macOS version (going through CoreAudio) not Linux (ASLA?). So I'd say go for it, maybe you'll have a better time of it on Linux with your hardware, and then pls report back on how that goes!

SheepShaver has sound but some things like Quicktime Music Instruments didn't sound correct on that either. Bottom line is I wasn't able to have a satisfying experience with anything too sound-intense, like Emagic's Logic Audio or ReBirth (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ReBirth_RB-338) under any emulation that I've tried.
What I got is stuttering or some static sounding sound like in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whKbuR9OYEE
Good thing I still have a Mirror-Door G4 sitting under my desk :)
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Blast your eyes, my mirror-door went west about 12 years ago!

But I have 2 PPC G5 iMacs and a G4 Mac Mini for when the going gets rough. :lol:
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richmond62 wrote: Sun Jun 26, 2022 10:14 am All the monitors I have in my school were given to me by my bank: better to keep using them than either put in a hole in the ground or pay a recycling fee.
I know I'm digging up a thread from a long while back, but I just wish my school I work at had this attitude. They'd rather junk everything old, only to complain that they don't have the very thing they'd junked a year later. And then complain they have no money.

They won't think outside the Windows ecosystem. They frown on macs, and they have a completely closed mind to Linux.

A real shame, as Linux could really breathe new life into these 7 year old pcs. I mention it as I found an old g4 in a cupboard which boots.
I used to think the appimage of sheepshaver was slow on my Linux box at home, but it's like lightning compared to this 450mhz Bondi g4.
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