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I would remove Widgets from a teaching version; but I have also always thought that LEGO Technic is
a perversion.
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HA, Yeah the lego thing is a little goofy, probably better suited metaphor for something code-block oriented like Scratch!
I was going to replace it in mine with my South Park style me, probably not appropriate for a classroom though:
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It's a bit dated, I have far less hair now and I tend to drink Stella Artois or Grolsch now when I drink beer (which isn't very often these days)
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richmond62 wrote: Mon Sep 20, 2021 5:43 am I would remove Widgets from a teaching version;
I just did a quick test of removing all com.livecode.widget... widgets from the IDE directory and then relaunching.

Here's the problem with that, the IDE now uses some of those things for Dictionary Stack (uses BrowserWidget) and the Property Inspector (SVG Icons and such) Stack for examples.

I THINK you COULD safely remove these though, but I didn't do a whole lot of testing

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com.livecode.widget.spinner
com.livecode.widget.switchbutton
com.livecode.widget.clock
com.livecode.widget.headerbar
com.livecode.widget.linegraph
com.livecode.widget.native.android.button
com.livecode.widget.native.android.field
com.livecode.widget.native.emscripten.button
com.livecode.widget.native.ios.button
com.livecode.widget.native.mac.button
com.livecode.widget.native.mac.textfield
A better way is probably to modify the Tools pallet stack via script (could be made into an add-on), or just build a new Tools palette from a copy of revTools stack.

Interestingly if you look at that Tools stack in Project Browser, there's all sorts of things in there that may just be left overs from days gone by
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Or you could just programmatically figure out what function this is that removes the widgets group from the palette and then also hides the button thing that has the controls the palette options
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For the record I was going the other way with that, adding more widgets default to that palette.
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Actually . . .

I would not favour removing any capabilities that are present in LC 9.6.3., but I
would favour "burying" a way of hiding bits (such as widgets) in a place where
teachers can find it but pupils/students would find more difficult ....

And this really is another way of saying the same thing as setting up a series
of Levels a bit like those in Hypercard:
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richmond62 wrote: Tue Sep 21, 2021 4:33 pm And this really is another way of saying the same thing as setting up a series
of Levels a bit like those in Hypercard:
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Exactly, but I think we could do that as an add on module/plugin.
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