Learning from the other side

[richmond62]

We would be churlish (and so would they) to ignore somethings going on 'up north', especially when they impinge directly on what we have inherited from them.

The 'thing' that caught my eye this morning was this:

https://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.p ... ma#p226539

and, to save anyone the bother of 'taking a walk on the tame side', I will quote the meaty bits here:

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on mouseUp
set the useSystemDate to true
put the long date into field "f1"
end mouseUp

Gives me "Wednesday, November 1, 2023" yet my system date is set to Australia (day before month), my Mac showing "Wed 1 Nov" in the menu bar and elsewhere showing local date format at all times.

Same with "put the system date" into the message box, gives me "11/1/23" not "1/11/23", as does "put the date" of course.

MacOS 14.0"

As (Sunday) I am at home, and my machine running MacOS 14 is now at school (so check tomorrow), I can ONLY see what happens 'here' on my MacOS 12 machine:
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on mouseUp
   set the useSystemDate to true
   put the long date into field "f1"
   put the system date into field "f2"
end mouseUp

Certainly, 'over here' (MacOS 12) I can see no obvious problems.

[richmond62]

Let's be TOTALLY INFANTILE and set the Calendar to something obscure:
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Completely unacceptable!
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[tperry2x]

Whenever I've reliably needed to get the date in Livecode / OXT, I've always used the dateitems function. This is so regardless of what the system is set to, it'll always return the same output:

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Can you try this on Sonoma and see what output you get?

[richmond62]

Can you try this on Sonoma and see what output you get?

Please read the first posting re me, my Sonoma machine, and testing . . .

Not until tomorrow.

[tperry2x]

Haha, - Yes, don't worry. No rush

[richmond62]

Wow! Dead-sexy effect on right-clicking on your file and selecting OXT Lite 0.93:
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Here's the MacOS 12 result: although the IDE opened, inconsistently in Lightmode when the system is set to darkmode:
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[tperry2x]

That's weird. Or is the tools palette supposed to look like that on your build?

[tperry2x]

..the IDE opened, inconsistently in Lightmode when the system is set to darkmode

Yes, it always does. It takes a few seconds for Paul's MacOS dark mode lci to snap in.
As I mentioned, it's because it's kind of tacked-on, and not a native method. However, if it's not loaded by the time you come to open a stack, that suggests to me that something else is wrong.

[richmond62]

After 10 minutes it had not gone dark.