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What I found today

Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2023 4:01 pm
by richmond62
2 things:

1. My licensed copy of Toolbook Instructor 7.2

2. A demo CD of Toolbook Instructor 8.5

So, tomorrow, I'll have a look at them on my 32-bit laptop running Debian 11 XFCE with WINE and "see what I shall see"

[Especially as I have not been near Toolbook for 24 years.

Re: What I found today

Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2023 10:22 am
by richmond62
AND, sheer, slightly tarnished, joy:

https://archive.org/details/AsymetricMu ... CBTEdition

AND, the question is, will WINE manage the thing?
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Re: What I found today

Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2023 10:35 am
by richmond62

Re: What I found today

Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2023 2:16 pm
by FourthWorld
Have you used the v7 tools for exporting to the web?

Re: What I found today

Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2023 5:32 pm
by richmond62
No: for some very odd reason I could not get WINE to work on 32-bit Debian 11, so will try things on Xubuntu 64-bit sometime this weekend.

Re: What I found today

Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2023 4:26 pm
by FourthWorld
It occurs to me that Toolbook offered a successful web export option so long ago that it may assume HTTP 1.0 rather than 1.1.

If you get it running and find the web export doesn't run well, let me know. It's likely a very small header fix.

Re: What I found today

Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2023 11:42 am
by richmond62
Well:

1. My Toolbook 7.2 CD turned out to be hosed [so, lesson number #1: don't believe the "CDs will last forever" crap.]

2. Kubuntu 23.04 with XFCE bunged on top of it [lost patience with KDE after about 30 minutes], + WINE development, will NOT load TB 3.

3. The same DOES load TB 4.

Although I worked with TB 7.2 in 1998 I remember NOTHING of it.

Something that surprised me about TB4:
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What Toolbook, then, termed a widget.

Obviously aimed at lazy teachers [Why do I intensely dislike MCQs?]; this what I 'always' thought was called a 'macro'.

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In other respects, a majorly clunky interface that made me think of Windows 3.1.

[But, as far as I do recall, TB 7.2 was not much better in that respect.]

Re: What I found today

Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2023 11:48 am
by richmond62
And the same, old Tool Bar . . .

And a lot of settings / properties seem either impossible or very difficult to change.
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Seems unable to change the font.

Re: What I found today

Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2023 2:57 pm
by FourthWorld
CD-ROM degradation is only better than floppies; nothing beats clay tablets for long-term data storage.

https://www.loc.gov/preservation/scient ... evity.html

Re: What I found today

Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2023 3:16 pm
by richmond62
Tough call to save computer software on clay tablets.

A resurgent Babylonian civilisation may yet make us all look stypid.