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Does this mean anything we should worry about?

Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2024 1:19 pm
by richmond62
A young intern from the University of Washington told me that his Computer Science professor told him, that RunRev violates a “precedence rule” in that it operates over the top of both Microsoft and Apple’s operating system hierarchy. The professor said that so doing may cause incompatibility problems thus making programs potentially unstable and unsafe.
https://forums.opensuse.org/t/does-any- ... n/26931/11

Re: Does this mean anything we should worry about?

Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2024 3:31 pm
by overclockedmind
richmond62 wrote: Tue Mar 19, 2024 1:19 pm
A young intern from the University of Washington told me that his Computer Science professor told him, that RunRev violates a “precedence rule” in that it operates over the top of both Microsoft and Apple’s operating system hierarchy. The professor said that so doing may cause incompatibility problems thus making programs potentially unstable and unsafe.
https://forums.opensuse.org/t/does-any- ... n/26931/11
Sounds as if he's a programming "purist" pointing out that:

a) runRev couldn't do everything, and might have mistakes that require updates, and
b) runRev shouldn't be used in cases of mission-critical applications, as a program could crash and take down the system
c) It'd be interesting to have his thoughts on Java.

In other words, "I'm a computer science prof, and there's one way to program. My way."
As to Microsoft, the EULA or similar used to claim it wasn't safe for mission-critical applications (the entire OS) either...

In addition, ANY PROGRAM running on MS or Apple's OS is running "on top of" it... on top of the kernel, and everything else.

In case you couldn't tell, I woke up in a bad mood this morning.

Re: Does this mean anything we should worry about?

Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2024 3:35 pm
by richmond62
In case you couldn't tell, I woke up in a bad mood this morning.
A friend of my mother's erstwhile boyfriend was told by a dumpster diver that his professor of Philosophy's girlfriend's BFF's mother swore by Runtime Revolution . . .

Just thought I'd "Up" your mood a click or two more. 8-)

Re: Does this mean anything we should worry about?

Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2024 3:41 pm
by tperry2x
Unless they are talking about some kind of shared memory buffer overflow, I'm not sure what they mean. I think the last comment in that thread is very true - a lot has changed in between runRev and LCC, so unless they can elaborate further, I wouldn't lose any sleep over it.

Re: Does this mean anything we should worry about?

Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2024 3:44 pm
by richmond62
I wouldn't lose any sleep over it.
I am not noted for losing sleep over anything: just ask my wife. 8-)

Re: Does this mean anything we should worry about?

Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2024 8:35 pm
by FourthWorld
richmond62 wrote: Tue Mar 19, 2024 1:19 pm
A young intern from the University of Washington told me that his Computer Science professor told him, that RunRev violates a “precedence rule” in that it operates over the top of both Microsoft and Apple’s operating system hierarchy. The professor said that so doing may cause incompatibility problems thus making programs potentially unstable and unsafe.
https://forums.opensuse.org/t/does-any- ... n/26931/11
Consider:

1. It's a half-decade old tale that's third-hand: someone heard from someone who heard from someone else. What the original conversation was actually about is anyone's guess.

2. At the end of that chain of vague hearsay is the important qualifier: "MAY cause problems". Note that nothing like "actually caused problems" was claimed at all.

3. LC's method of layering its universal scripting engine atop OS APIs is not exactly a secret, it's the core selling point. One API, all supported systems. That's how it's able to actually fulfill Java's promise of "write once, run anywhere" that in Java requires a heckuva lot more work to get close to achieving if you want a GUI at all, and may Providence be with you if you want that Java-driven UI to look and feel native to the OS.

4. He also claims "no consultant could solve it", but I never heard from him and I doubt many of my then-LC-consultant friends did either, so I wonder if his sample behind that claim is maybe just one intern who happened to pass through his lab that afternoon.

But I'm curious: what archaeological interest had you probing ancient texts in the Suse forums?

Re: Does this mean anything we should worry about?

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2024 5:53 am
by richmond62
I just 'caught' it when I was looking for something quite different.
;)